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Эфиродинамическая гипотеза происхождения нефти Ацюковского
Зинатов Хайдар Галимович:
"2) I fully agreed originally hydrocarbons has been formed in the deep origin of earth and has been migrated in the reservoir rock via surface of the earth throw sedimentary rocks . Ancient bio mass has just contaminated these abiotic hydrocarbons in the burial history of the mixture of abiotic hydrocarbons and ancient bio mass ,just to confuse us ".
Dear Suresh Bansal, and by Your statement I agree. However, there is still the "human factor": for many years among petroleum geologists was dominated by the idea of the formation of biogenic deposits of gas, oil and bitumen. And this paradigm has not lost its domination in the forecast research and prospecting for deposits of gas, oil and bitumen.
Suresh Bansal (India):
--- Цитата: Зинатов Хайдар Галимович от Августа 22, 2015, 06:25:00 pm --- "2) I fully agreed originally hydrocarbons has been formed in the deep origin of earth and has been migrated in the reservoir rock via surface of the earth throw sedimentary rocks . Ancient bio mass has just contaminated these abiotic hydrocarbons in the burial history of the mixture of abiotic hydrocarbons and ancient bio mass ,just to confuse us ".
Dear Suresh Bansal, and by Your statement I agree. However, there is still the "human factor": for many years among petroleum geologists was dominated by the idea of the formation of biogenic deposits of gas, oil and bitumen. And this paradigm has not lost its domination in the forecast research and prospecting for deposits of gas, oil and bitumen.
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Dear Zeenat Haidar Galimovich,good points you asked . reasons are below;
1) Earlier there was wrong discussion between the followers of both theories , whether majority Global commercial interesting oils has been expelled from sedimentary source rocks or not , while the correct discussion should be whether these expelled hydrocarbons are biogenic or abiogenic in origin.
2) expulsion of hydrocarbons from sedimentary source rock do not scientifically prove the biogenic origin of hydrocarbons .
3) there is no need to ignore this well tested method suggested by biogenic theory . but this method do not scientifically prove the biogenic origin of petroleum. hard need to observe how this method can be reconciled in abiogenic origin of hydrocrbons.however we can add some more signatures in it .
4) we should join hands at one international stage
5) we should conduct some experiments in labs jointly . we can fetch good results i am almost sure.
6) we should concentrate on how sedimentary source rocks has been formed . with the involvement of abiotic hydrocarbons or not .
Зинатов Хайдар Галимович:
"Dear Zeenat Haidar Galimovich,good points you asked . reasons are below;
1) Earlier there was wrong discussion between the followers of both theories , whether majority Global commercial interesting oils has been expelled from sedimentary source rocks or not , while the correct discussion should be whether these expelled hydrocarbons are biogenic or abiogenic in origin.
2) expulsion of hydrocarbons from sedimentary source rock do not scientifically prove the biogenic origin of hydrocarbons .
3) there is no need to ignore this well tested method suggested by biogenic theory . but this method do not scientifically prove the biogenic origin of petroleum. hard need to observe how this method can be reconciled in abiogenic origin of hydrocrbons.however we can add some more signatures in it .
4) we should join hands at one international stage
5) we should conduct some experiments in labs jointly . we can fetch good results i am almost sure.
6) we should concentrate on how sedimentary source rocks has been formed . with the involvement of abiotic hydrocarbons or not ".
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Dear Suresh Bansal, I support Your suggestions. I think that Your suggestions should not remain within our discussions with You, and hope that Your suggestions will be discussed by the Forum participants.
Good luck!
Suresh Bansal (India):
--- Цитата: Зинатов Хайдар Галимович от Августа 23, 2015, 09:04:14 am ---"Dear Zeenat Haidar Galimovich,good points you asked . reasons are below;
1) Earlier there was wrong discussion between the followers of both theories , whether majority Global commercial interesting oils has been expelled from sedimentary source rocks or not , while the correct discussion should be whether these expelled hydrocarbons are biogenic or abiogenic in origin.
2) expulsion of hydrocarbons from sedimentary source rock do not scientifically prove the biogenic origin of hydrocarbons .
3) there is no need to ignore this well tested method suggested by biogenic theory . but this method do not scientifically prove the biogenic origin of petroleum. hard need to observe how this method can be reconciled in abiogenic origin of hydrocrbons.however we can add some more signatures in it .
4) we should join hands at one international stage
5) we should conduct some experiments in labs jointly . we can fetch good results i am almost sure.
6) we should concentrate on how sedimentary source rocks has been formed . with the involvement of abiotic hydrocarbons or not ".
--- Конец цитаты ---
Dear Suresh Bansal, I support Your suggestions. I think that Your suggestions should not remain within our discussions with You, and hope that Your suggestions will be discussed by the Forum participants.
Good luck!
[/quote]Thank you very much ,Dear Zeenat Haidar Galimovich. Love you and cheers
Зинатов Хайдар Галимович:
--- Цитата: Suresh Bansal (India) от Августа 24, 2015, 10:12:03 am ---
--- Цитата: Зинатов Хайдар Галимович от Августа 23, 2015, 09:04:14 am ---"Dear Zeenat Haidar Galimovich,good points you asked . reasons are below;
1) Earlier there was wrong discussion between the followers of both theories , whether majority Global commercial interesting oils has been expelled from sedimentary source rocks or not , while the correct discussion should be whether these expelled hydrocarbons are biogenic or abiogenic in origin.
2) expulsion of hydrocarbons from sedimentary source rock do not scientifically prove the biogenic origin of hydrocarbons .
3) there is no need to ignore this well tested method suggested by biogenic theory . but this method do not scientifically prove the biogenic origin of petroleum. hard need to observe how this method can be reconciled in abiogenic origin of hydrocrbons.however we can add some more signatures in it .
4) we should join hands at one international stage
5) we should conduct some experiments in labs jointly . we can fetch good results i am almost sure.
6) we should concentrate on how sedimentary source rocks has been formed . with the involvement of abiotic hydrocarbons or not ".
--- Конец цитаты ---
Dear Suresh Bansal, I support Your suggestions. I think that Your suggestions should not remain within our discussions with You, and hope that Your suggestions will be discussed by the Forum participants.
Good luck!
--- Конец цитаты ---
Thank you very much ,Dear Zeenat Haidar Galimovich. Love you and cheers
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Dear Suresh Bansal, I have nothing to do with, or related to Business (Business). It is Your business , or Your suggestions on the Forum on cooperation in studying the problem of proving the availability of all rocks on earth, "carbon" (С) or its isotopes, which will prove influence on the formation of all carbon-containing rocks, minerals and mineral carbon, which was formed in the deep areas of the Earth and, eventually, came to the surface and formed their own clusters of different Genesis. If Your proposed idea would be solved, there is no debate and confrontation between the supporters of the "biogenic" and "no biogenic or abiogenic" the formation of deposits of gas, oil and bitumen.
I think Your suggestions on cooperation with the Forum for the solution to your problem, are best suited to basics discussions on the Forum and to the basics and essence "Kudryavtsevka readings".
However, it is only my point of view.
Good luck!
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