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Эфиродинамическая гипотеза происхождения нефти Ацюковского
Зинатов Хайдар Галимович:
--- Цитата: Suresh Bansal (India) от Августа 20, 2015, 10:36:38 am ---Dear Zeenat Haidar Galimovich, thanks wishing for my good health ,unfortunately it is not . yes I agreed with you that our understanding about abiotic origin of hydrocarbons are very close . we all agreed deep origin of hydrocarbons but little change only that I do not want to ignore the expulsion of hydrocarbons from sedimentary source rocks, but want to suggest these sedimentary source rocks essentially has been formed with the hydrocarbon bearing flux ( once huge present on the surface of the earth and has been buried along with the ancient bio mass) to confuse us . sedimentary rocks thathas been formed without any involvement of this abiotic hydrocarbon bearing flux are DRY only . Otherwise both we have similar theory . ancient bio mass has not played any vital role to form the Global hydrocarbons . I also wish a good health for you and all members of this forum .
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Dear Suresh Bansal:
1. In Russia, with over 195 peoples, like all peoples of Eurasia, decided to wish everyone with whom they come into positive communication, first of all, good Health, and the rest is not so important. But, You don't give up: we all, with age, have their own issues with Health.
2. If I understand You correctly, then I agree with You that life on Earth from the Archean period until today, was formed under the influence of many deep-seated geological processes. Probably, primarily under the influence of the composition of magmatic activity and volcanic products. Also strongly on the development of life on Earth was influenced by the composition of simultaneous and post-volcanic hydrothermal activity. This influence has long been substantiated by many volcanologists, paleontologists, and other scientists. This impact on the development of biomass on earth spread of bacteria through protozoa to homenidou. There is no doubt that the development of biomass on Earth was influenced by Solar activity, and the activity of the moon, and the whole Cosmos. On the role of biomass on Earth in the course of geological processes in the upper layers of the earth's crust, much of the work. Not to mention the work of V. I. Vernadsky.
3. Apparently, prior to the Phanerozoic Earth completely dominated "siliceous life. But, were still "pockets" of "Apatite life" and the beginnings of the "carbon life". And this "silicon life", apparently, depended on the prevailing takeaway from the depths of the Earth, emerging as the planet in the vast majority of the silicon – Si. And, with the Phanerozoic occurred a radical restructuring of the development of the biomass on earth, apparently in connection with the prevailing takeaway from the deep areas of the earth's carbon – S. The first of more organized forms of biomass on Earth Cambrian were the trilobites and all future representatives of a giant class of arthropods: their aquatic vegetation cannot be built without carbon. Later in the Carboniferous was the exuberant development of continental and marine vegetation and , consequently, the formation of deposits of coal and various schists. Containing carbonaceous shales. In the Mesozoic was followed by violent development of the giant clams, dead remains, which formed the strata of carbonate sediments. On land was dominated by reptiles, the structure of the skeletons which is also not possible without carbon. Then, finally, gradually biomass supplemented with primates and hominidae that without the participation of carbon in their anatomy and in society cannot live. But, nevertheless, in the reigns of carbon of organic life saved "enclaves" and silicon, and phosphorous and other lives. Besides, as everyone knows, clams have blue blood due to the consumption of cuprum (Cu), and a more organized life forms – the "red" blood, based on the ferum (Fe). But on Earth all organisms or life forms, fighting each other for survival, and trace elements, in connection with volcanism, is always missing. Victory carbon life on Earth over other forms of life, apparently, was due to the removal of the volcanism prevailing mass of carbon.
4. Yes, throughout the Phanerozoic biomass has accumulated a large amount of carbon. However, disposal of this huge amount of carbon in the geological development of the Earth, as well as, significant, fossilization or metamorphism of these organic residues, for example, deposits of graphite, coal, manifestations of kerogen, which casts doubt on the possibility of removing these natural accumulations of carbon the carbon, by geological processes, without human intervention, and transfer of this carbon by the literal or vertically (up or down) in the field of gas or oil, which sometimes reach gigantic proportions and reserves.
I was overly talkative. But I hope that our communication will be beneficial to You and to me.
I wish you Health and good Luck! I/color]
Шестопалов Анатолий Васильевич:
Обнаружена статья члена комиссии по борьбе с наукой (лженаукой) по холодному ядерному синтезу 1992 года, т.е. академик занимается тем с чем он борется
В.Е. Фортов и др. “Диагностика нейтронов в экспериментах по ХЯС”, Труды института общей физики, т. 36, 1992г.
https://youtu.be/HoeTPnt4JTg
Докладчик: Данилов Игорь Юрьевич, кандидат философских наук.
Suresh Bansal (India):
--- Цитата: Зинатов Хайдар Галимович от Августа 20, 2015, 07:02:51 pm ---
--- Цитата: Suresh Bansal (India) от Августа 20, 2015, 10:36:38 am ---Dear Zeenat Haidar Galimovich, thanks wishing for my good health ,unfortunately it is not . yes I agreed with you that our understanding about abiotic origin of hydrocarbons are very close . we all agreed deep origin of hydrocarbons but little change only that I do not want to ignore the expulsion of hydrocarbons from sedimentary source rocks, but want to suggest these sedimentary source rocks essentially has been formed with the hydrocarbon bearing flux ( once huge present on the surface of the earth and has been buried along with the ancient bio mass) to confuse us . sedimentary rocks thathas been formed without any involvement of this abiotic hydrocarbon bearing flux are DRY only . Otherwise both we have similar theory . ancient bio mass has not played any vital role to form the Global hydrocarbons . I also wish a good health for you and all members of this forum .
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Dear Suresh Bansal:
1. In Russia, with over 195 peoples, like all peoples of Eurasia, decided to wish everyone with whom they come into positive communication, first of all, good Health, and the rest is not so important. But, You don't give up: we all, with age, have their own issues with Health.
2. If I understand You correctly, then I agree with You that life on Earth from the Archean period until today, was formed under the influence of many deep-seated geological processes. Probably, primarily under the influence of the composition of magmatic activity and volcanic products. Also strongly on the development of life on Earth was influenced by the composition of simultaneous and post-volcanic hydrothermal activity. This influence has long been substantiated by many volcanologists, paleontologists, and other scientists. This impact on the development of biomass on earth spread of bacteria through protozoa to homenidou. There is no doubt that the development of biomass on Earth was influenced by Solar activity, and the activity of the moon, and the whole Cosmos. On the role of biomass on Earth in the course of geological processes in the upper layers of the earth's crust, much of the work. Not to mention the work of V. I. Vernadsky.
3. Apparently, prior to the Phanerozoic Earth completely dominated "siliceous life. But, were still "pockets" of "Apatite life" and the beginnings of the "carbon life". And this "silicon life", apparently, depended on the prevailing takeaway from the depths of the Earth, emerging as the planet in the vast majority of the silicon – Si. And, with the Phanerozoic occurred a radical restructuring of the development of the biomass on earth, apparently in connection with the prevailing takeaway from the deep areas of the earth's carbon – S. The first of more organized forms of biomass on Earth Cambrian were the trilobites and all future representatives of a giant class of arthropods: their aquatic vegetation cannot be built without carbon. Later in the Carboniferous was the exuberant development of continental and marine vegetation and , consequently, the formation of deposits of coal and various schists. Containing carbonaceous shales. In the Mesozoic was followed by violent development of the giant clams, dead remains, which formed the strata of carbonate sediments. On land was dominated by reptiles, the structure of the skeletons which is also not possible without carbon. Then, finally, gradually biomass supplemented with primates and hominidae that without the participation of carbon in their anatomy and in society cannot live. But, nevertheless, in the reigns of carbon of organic life saved "enclaves" and silicon, and phosphorous and other lives. Besides, as everyone knows, clams have blue blood due to the consumption of cuprum (Cu), and a more organized life forms – the "red" blood, based on the ferum (Fe). But on Earth all organisms or life forms, fighting each other for survival, and trace elements, in connection with volcanism, is always missing. Victory carbon life on Earth over other forms of life, apparently, was due to the removal of the volcanism prevailing mass of carbon.
4. Yes, throughout the Phanerozoic biomass has accumulated a large amount of carbon. However, disposal of this huge amount of carbon in the geological development of the Earth, as well as, significant, fossilization or metamorphism of these organic residues, for example, deposits of graphite, coal, manifestations of kerogen, which casts doubt on the possibility of removing these natural accumulations of carbon the carbon, by geological processes, without human intervention, and transfer of this carbon by the literal or vertically (up or down) in the field of gas or oil, which sometimes reach gigantic proportions and reserves.
I was overly talkative. But I hope that our communication will be beneficial to You and to me.
I wish you Health and good Luck! I/color]
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Regarding your point no. 4 . why you think kerogen is a result of vegetation of fossilization of ancient bio mass ONLY ?? why not with the involvement of abiotic hydrocarbon bearing flux ( once huge present on the surface of the earth ) ? please explain it .
Зинатов Хайдар Галимович:
"Regarding your point no. 4 . why you think kerogen is a result of vegetation of fossilization of ancient bio mass ONLY ?? why not with the involvement of abiotic hydrocarbon bearing flux ( once huge present on the surface of the earth ) ? please explain it ".
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Dear Suresh Bansal.
I can only say:
1. If, during the late Pleistocene (11,000 years ago) a major breakthrough of hydrocarbons on the territory of the Republic of Tatarstan (part of the Volga-Kama ANTECLISE) to the ground of the lake bitumen, the same volatile hydrocarbons, passing the path of his ascent on different disjunctive disorders met on his way a good manifold and reliable tires that were formed pozdnepaleozoiskoi Delta and abdeltawab sediments, formed the largest in Russia industrially significant deposits of bitumen.
2. In Soviet Transcaucasia – Bababudan highlands, in the Nakhichevan USSR, we were able to detect unique to the USSR, volcanogenic-sedimentary occurrence of allophane[allophane - Allophane (Eng. allophane ) Al2O3•nSiO2•pH2O - mineral, water aluminum silicate changing composition.] in Quaternary lake sediments.(OSOL A. A., Vlasov V. V., Gorbachev B. F., Senatov H. G. Allophane in lake sediments of the Caucasus. Soviet Geology. 1980. Pp. 51-54.) These lake sediments were deposited on the eroded surface basalts of the early and middle Pliocene. The area of the Caucasus differed very active, not yet extinct in temperature, the action of the two composition postvolcanic water sources: 1) hydrochloride-sodium - control soda - and bronosky and 2) purely siliceous. First, very close to each other, rocks on the earth's surface travertines, and the second geyserites. This is characteristic of all volcanic areas, both modern and ancient. Research helped to restore this logic of events: 1) a Small reservoir of allophane was enclosed in the thickness of the montmorillonite clay. Meant in a local lake at the altitude of glaciers falling volcanic ash andesite-dacite and subalkaline andesite-dacite composition. When hypergenes volcanic ash in the lake was formed alkaline composition of water. And when there was a lake of acid on the composition of waters that contain aluminum (Al) and waste recycling (Si), then there coagulation of the composition of these acidic hot baths. And when there was an influx into the lake of acid on the composition of waters that contain aluminum (Al) and waste recycling (Si), then there coagulation of the composition of these acidic hot baths. This resulted in the formation of allophane, which was later covered volcano sedimentary montmorillonite.
3. As it is known to form deposits of gas or oil four important factors:1) a trap; 2) good collector; 3) reliable tires and 4) the inflow of volatile hydrocarbons. I will add that it would be best if these factors acted relatively synchronously. The second and third factors can be planted earlier than the first and fourth. And so, if the first three factors in small or extensive sedimentary basin has not yet appeared, and the fourth factor – operates, where to go volatile hydrocarbons? Perhaps they "coagulability" among precipitation of the basin and formed abitity kerogen or bitumen nodules among the coal-bearing strata of shale.
I will set out his version of education non-biogenic kerogen. It is possible that this hypothesis is wrong. I was not involved in the formation of kerogen.
Success in business and Life!
Suresh Bansal (India):
--- Цитата: Зинатов Хайдар Галимович от Августа 21, 2015, 01:14:56 pm ---"Regarding your point no. 4 . why you think kerogen is a result of vegetation of fossilization of ancient bio mass ONLY ?? why not with the involvement of abiotic hydrocarbon bearing flux ( once huge present on the surface of the earth ) ? please explain it ".
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Dear Suresh Bansal.
I can only say:
1. If, during the late Pleistocene (11,000 years ago) a major breakthrough of hydrocarbons on the territory of the Republic of Tatarstan (part of the Volga-Kama ANTECLISE) to the ground of the lake bitumen, the same volatile hydrocarbons, passing the path of his ascent on different disjunctive disorders met on his way a good manifold and reliable tires that were formed pozdnepaleozoiskoi Delta and abdeltawab sediments, formed the largest in Russia industrially significant deposits of bitumen.
2. In Soviet Transcaucasia – Bababudan highlands, in the Nakhichevan ASSR, we were able to detect unique to the USSR, volcanogenic-sedimentary occurrence of allophane[allophane - Allophane (Eng. allophane ) A12O3•nSiO2•pH2O - mineral, water aluminum silicate changing composition.] in Quaternary lake sediments.(ESOL A. A., Vlasov V. V., Gorbachev B. F., Senatov H. G. Allophane in lake sediments of the Caucasus. Soviet Geology. 1980. Pp. 51-54.) These lake sediments were deposited on the eroded surface basalts of the early and middle Pliocene. The area of the Caucasus differed very active, not yet extinct in temperature, the action of the two composition postvolcanic water sources: 1) hydrochloride-sodium - control soda - and bronosky and 2) purely siliceous. First, very close to each other, rocks on the earth's surface travertines, and the second geyserites. This is characteristic of all volcanic areas, both modern and ancient. Research helped to restore this logic of events: 1) a Small reservoir of allophane was enclosed in the thickness of the montmorillonite clay. Meant in a local lake at the altitude of glaciers falling volcanic ash andesite-dacite and subalkaline andesite-dacite composition. When hypergenes volcanic ash in the lake was formed alkaline composition of water. And when there was a lake of acid on the composition of waters that contain aluminum (Al) and waste recycling (Si), then there coagulation of the composition of these acidic hot baths. This resulted in the formation of allophane, which was later covered volcano sedimentary montmorillonite.
3. As it is known to form deposits of gas or oil four important factors: (1) a trap; 2) good collector; 3) reliable tires and 4) the inflow of volatile hydrocarbons. I will add that it would be best if these factors acted relatively synchronously. The second and third factors can be planted earlier than the first and fourth. And so, if the first three factors in small or extensive sedimentary basin has not yet appeared, and the fourth factor – operates, where to go volatile hydrocarbons? Perhaps they "coagulability" among precipitation of the basin and formed abitity kerogen or bitumen nodules among the coal-bearing strata of shale.
I will set out his version of education non-biogenic kerogen. It is possible that this hypothesis is wrong. I was not involved in the formation of kerogen.
Success in business and Life!
[/quote]Dear Zeenat Haidar Galimovich , thanks for useful information . can you please send me version of education non biogenic kerogen ? cheers and enjoy the life .
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